. >> it's not surprising then that they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy toward people who aren't them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment >> same-sex marriage, either by court decree, legislative action or actual popular vote. now, illinois, delaware and hawaii are also considering legalizing gay marriage, same-sex marriage. and the right's retreat extends to other areas, as well. i'm joined by laura ashburn and a contributor to the daily beast, the human rights campaign. often confused with hillary rodham clinton. >>> let me talk about this, you're on the front all of the time fighting for same-sex rights and gay rights generally. isn't it odd that in a country where we've begun to shift dramatically in that direction -- more than acceptance. it's much more positive. it's just, okay, we'll go along with that. at the same time we have a country that still affects gun rights in so many communities. are they different communities? >> i think so. and there's a whole range of issues, you know, that we could talk about from reproductive rights to clim